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Birthday greetings, thoughts on Awards, and a moan. - Words in the Heroes' Tongue
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Birthday greetings, thoughts on Awards, and a moan.

Happy Birthday to psubrat



I'm up for two "Best of the Best" awards at Vampire Kisses. I haven't voted yet; I don't even know if I will. Is it ethical to vote for myself? Even if it is, is it honest? There are too many hard choices. I'm just not up to making hard choices at the moment. Maybe I'll just hide my head in the sand and wait until it goes away.

I put "The Cloak of Mist" up on my site a week or so back, as the watchersdiaries had had it exclusively for long enough.

Only ONE person has read it there, and I'm fairly sure that the reader would have been a moderator from the Shadows and Dust Awards (for which I self-nominated it, not only legitimate but actually required for the nomination to be accepted) checking that it was a valid submission.

I can't believe it. I'm getting 70 visitors to the site a day, most of them are probably old readers checking to see if I've put up anything new, and I've got a new story there and they're not reading it! It's the best thing I've ever done - not only do I think that myself, but the comments I got at watchersdiaries indicate that a lot of people agree with me - and my own fans aren't reading it. Presumably because it doesn't contain Spike?

And the suckers don't seem to be biting at the "Savage Beauty" project on ff.net. Wonder how that would go down on my website?

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mommanerd From: mommanerd Date: March 3rd, 2005 12:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think in the open-voting awards sites you are allowed to vote for yourself. I never have just... because. But still, if you do, there is nothing "cheating" about it. I think they even encourage you to "pimp" yourself to get others to go vote for you. If everyone nominated does that it all works out.

Still - it's uncomfortable.

Congrats on your nominations.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 01:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Not nominations as such; it's all the winners of rounds over the past year.

Thank you.
booster17 From: booster17 Date: March 3rd, 2005 01:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
I vote yes, but never for myself. It just somehow seems... wrong. If I'm gonna win something, I'd rather it was voted for by other people who say 'yes, this is good. this deserves to win'.

Question I struggle with is "Is it okay to nominate yourself?"
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 01:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
Nomination isn't a problem; curiouswombat is always willing to nominate me for anything and everything, even unprompted.

I had to nominate myself fot a Shadows and Dust award recently; the watchersdiaries mods posted to point out that the fics there were eligible for that award, and suggesting that we go there; when I did I found that the deadline for nominating others was past and they were only accepting self-nominations. It would be a shame for The Cloak of Mist not to get some recognition, so I nominated it.
From: steanne Date: March 3rd, 2005 01:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
see now, i was waiting for you to put it on your site to read it, and people generally announce when they do that. as you just did.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 01:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ah, I didn't bother mentioning it here because I was referring to it all the way through posting at watchersdiaries. I thought my F-List would be reading it there if they were interested.
elisi From: elisi Date: March 3rd, 2005 02:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
Maybe you could put a few bits and pieces from your rave reviews on your site? All those 'Gosh, this is the best thing you've ever written' might get people interested?
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 4th, 2005 04:46 am (UTC) (Link)
My site is cluttered enough as it is (although I've tidied it up a lot today) and I think review extracts might make it worse. Plus, I'd really need to get the permission of the reviewers to do that.
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curiouswombat From: curiouswombat Date: March 3rd, 2005 07:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
'I only read Spike.' I am amazed at the number of people who say this - someone lower down the page does as well - it's such an odd way of deciding what to read! I can understand 'I only read fictions by Miss Murchison and Enigmaticblue', 'I only read things less than 5000 words long' or 'I only read finished works', but 'I only read things with a specific character' seems so weird to me. It is exactly the same as someone saying 'I only read books with Miss Eliza Bennett in them.' Or for that matter 'I only eat food with onions in it.'

It is so sad that you will miss gems such as julia_here's 'Another Irish Rose', or 'Aren’t You Grateful It’s Not a Bunny?' by appomattoxco.

It's no wonder that fanfic writers give up trying to write any totally original stuff when even their fanfic has to always have the same character in for some people to read it!

Go on all of you unicharactercentric readers - try ice-cream - even though there are no onions in it you might find that it's nice!!
makd From: makd Date: March 3rd, 2005 03:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
I loved your Watchers' Diaries story, though I don't think I had the time that week-end to provide fb.

Frankly, I love everything you write.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 10:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank you! ::blushes with pride::
psubrat From: psubrat Date: March 3rd, 2005 03:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for the birthday wishes!! ::hugs::


P.S. I voted for you. *g*
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 10:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank you! ::hugs you back::
myfeetshowit From: myfeetshowit Date: March 3rd, 2005 03:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have to admit I'm one of the ones who hasn't read your Watcher's Dairies because of lack of Spike. RL has limited my time lately so I've had to pick and choose and I always end up choosing Spike.

Sorry about that.

I've been mostly limiting myself to one story per author at a time as well.
I think feedback has seemed harder to come by of late so I've tried to give as much to as many people as possible.

I will get to each and everyone of your stories sooner or later though - so I'll be one of the people who gives you feedback on stories you thought were long forgotten. I hope that makes up for not getting it along the way. Nah. I crave as I go along too!



speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 11:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't mind people not reading it - I just find it odd that people who have obviously come to my site looking for new stories by me get there, find that there is indeed a new story, and don't read it.

Of course, being fairly Spike-centric myself, most of the Yahoo! groups etc. that I belong to are all Spike based and therefore I can't pimp it in those places. I'm relying purely on passing trade; but the trade is passing and not stopping.
sharelle From: sharelle Date: March 3rd, 2005 06:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Congratulations on your nominations! Hmm. I should probably start visiting awards sites. When I first started writing fic, the fandom I was in was so small they never had anything like that. I keep forgetting this one does -- or I'd probably vote a lot more often.

In regards to the etiquette of voting, I'm not sure if this will make you feel any better about it, but I've never had any problem voting for myself during my life. (Especially if it was something that I really wanted, or something I honestly felt that I'd be very good at -- elected positions, awards, whatever.) It's obvious, by the quality of your stories, that you put a great amount of work into what you do, and you seem genuinely proud of it. If it's been nominated, and you feel that it's deserving, there should be no shame in showing it. (As my mother used to say, "If you don't vote for yourself, how can you expect someone else to do it?") Plus, how many politicians do you think cast their vote for the "other guy" on election day?

Vote proud! Vote Speaker! *G*
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 10:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
Your mother has a good point; I probably will vote for myself. Shame I'm up against my best online friend and her story that I admire tremendously.
pfeifferpack From: pfeifferpack Date: March 3rd, 2005 10:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
In the words of my ancestors (and Bro Finan) Go raibh maith agat for the lovely The Cloak of Mist. I've been wanting to read it, but was trying to pump out my kinkathon mini epic. Lovely Slayer lore (and what a wonderful Slayer, Watcher and her Icelandic love, Egil). I love how you've put in history and myth in this. So wonderful (glad King Brian's killer was finally put to dust). Behay should live long than join Egil in either heaven or Valhalla. Wonderful story, rich and lush in the telling.

Kathleen
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 11:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Gura mie eu (in the words of Bahey's people).

Wonderful feedback, rich and lush in the giving.
sevedra From: sevedra Date: March 3rd, 2005 10:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
I haven't been reading any fic lately because my lit/comp class is kicking my bootay. Sorry. I'll read it in mid April when class is over. I am SURE it is fabulous. It would have to be, wouldn't it?
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 3rd, 2005 11:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for the compliment!
nandibble From: nandibble Date: March 4th, 2005 12:23 am (UTC) (Link)
A modest suggestion. Your site isn't the easiest to navigate (per me only). Might you put a NEW or UPDATED notice (with a link) right on your TOP page, where it's impossible to miss? I think that would make identifying new stuff easier for the person browsing through.

Also, might you gather the pieces of Savage Beauty into one place? I just looked and they're not on your website. Might you put them into Memories, here on LJ, as some writers do? I want to continue reccing this tale but haven't yet found all the parts. (I will, though. It just takes effort.)

Warmest regards!
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 4th, 2005 02:03 am (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for the suggestion! I haven't done it quite like that, but I've now got an Updates page with huge links to it from the main homepage and each of the two fiction index pages, and I've cleaned those index pages up a bit.

Savage Beauty is in Memories, actually. I will put it on the website as well, probably tonight as I doubt if I'll get much writing done now.
enigmaticblues From: enigmaticblues Date: March 4th, 2005 04:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Two words: stupid people. If they're not reading "Cloak of Mist" they're just stupid, because it's brilliant. You're right. And the people at ff.net must be too stupid not to bite. It's so worth it just for the sheer humor.

But I'm with you. I refuse to even peek at the Best of the Best, because I know I'm probably there, and I refuse to care. So I'm doing the head in the sand thing too. You want to join me?
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 4th, 2005 04:44 am (UTC) (Link)
I've followed nandibble's suggestion and made it far more obvious on my site that there is new material there, so if visitors were simply not seeing "The Cloak of Mist" they don't have that excuse now.

Re the Awards: Too late. I was swayed by the words of sharelle's mother, and I've been and voted. You are, of course, there; and I have of course voted for you in a couple of categories. You might not do as well as you deserve, because you are competing against yourself in more than one category.
evilawyer From: evilawyer Date: March 7th, 2005 02:31 am (UTC) (Link)
Perhaps your new site interface will help. Also, re: Savage Beauty on ff.net, I find that site a little cumbersome to negotiate (when I'm tired or when it goes unaccountably slowly). Hang in there. You know all your stuff is beyond good. (There's nothing wrong with a little self-acknowledgment I say).
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 7th, 2005 02:54 am (UTC) (Link)
The new site interface does indeed seem to be helping; another five people have read it there now.

In the same period 47 people have read "It's got to be perfect"; but it's a start.
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