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	The Curious Incident of the God in the Night-time ...
	I knew when I started posting my stories on fanfic.net that it would probably depress me and I was right. It has done. Tags: discussion, fic, fic_discussion Current Mood: confused Current Music: Manic Street Preachers, "Motorcycle Emptiness"

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 04:33 am (UTC)		(Link)

Like the dog in the nighttime; nothing.

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 04:57 am (UTC)		(Link)

I think if I'd chosen ff.net as the first place to post my fics, rather than getting a site of my own and then LiveJournal, I'd probably have given up altogether months ago.

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	From: violethamster	Date: January 4th, 2005 04:52 am (UTC)		(Link)

How heartbreaking it is not to get any "OMG ur a gud writtur! 111!!!11!".

Just remember that fanfic.net is the Bizarro World of fanfic. Feedback is in inverse quantity to the quality of the story.

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 04:55 am (UTC)		(Link)

I sincerely hope so.

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	From: rahirah	Date: January 4th, 2005 04:56 am (UTC)		(Link)

Psst! It's only a model.

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 04:58 am (UTC)		(Link)

And the lights in the sky are scenery.

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	From: danceswithwords	Date: January 4th, 2005 05:00 am (UTC)		(Link)

I know a lot of writers post there simply because it's the easiest way to the widest audience, but (to be blunt) the ratio of crap to quality on the site is so overwhelming that I find it totally unusable. A couple of writers I beta for have had problems with really ignorant and functionally illiterate (but still hurtful) flames from there too.

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 05:07 am (UTC)		(Link)

Oh, I haven't had any flames. Or, in the case of my most recently posted story, any other reaction whatsoever. It just vanished without trace, without even any despairing radio messages to the control tower.

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	From: janedavitt	Date: January 4th, 2005 05:31 am (UTC)		(Link)
	Sins of the Father Spike/Connor R

I have fics there with zero or two f/bs that were well enough received elsewhere. It's a scary place.

Ff.net Doesn't Count when it comes to f/b. You'll get some good, intelligent con crit or encouragement now and then but it's either non-existent or woefully missing the point a lot of the time.

I sort of treasure the one I got after posting some drabbles, which, from memory, went something like,

'OMG! I usually like your fics, but now you're posting all these - what are they, they're not long enough to be real fics. Please write more proper stories!'

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 05:57 am (UTC)		(Link)
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I only post on ff.net as tasters hoping to lure people to my site for the rest of my fics; it isn't really working. I get 10 referrals from

kantayra's site for every one from ff.net.

I was thinking of posting the drabble epilogue to "It's Got To Be Perfect" there, but decided against it; perhaps that was a wise decision. 'OMG itz onely 100 w0rdz!'

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	From: opalescence	Date: January 4th, 2005 06:23 am (UTC)		(Link)

I really don't know how that is possible. They don't know what they are saying.

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 11:44 am (UTC)		(Link)

In the particular case I'm moaning about they're not saying anything.

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	From: waywardchilde	Date: January 4th, 2005 06:41 am (UTC)		(Link)

Ya know, FF.net is the only place I get reviews. People here tend not to review my stuff. Of course I thought it was a good idea to start posting my stuff as soon as X-mas started. Maybe it has to do with the holiday's? Or maybe i'm the worse writer ever...(starts to hyperventilate.) Well Hieiko likes my writing and Hieiko likes Speaker to customers writing and speaker to customer is a really good writer, so everything is fine. (Hugging self rocking back and forth) Everything is fine, just fine.

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 11:37 am (UTC)		(Link)

I hadn't read anything of yours before yesterday. I'm making a point of doing so now. Loved the Santa Claus/Faith one!

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	From: diabola79	Date: January 4th, 2005 07:53 am (UTC)		(Link)

On a positive note, maybe the people with enough brain to apprentice your fic's already read them elsewhere, and that's why they don't comment at ff.net...

Personally I just look that page over, checking for new authors. Later I bookmark their homepages or lj's if they link them.

As wonky as ff.net sometimes is with the updates (I've seen disappear stories regularly) it's simply too confusing to read there...

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 02:36 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I know there are people who only read at ff.net; presumably they are akin to my mother-in-law, who keeps her TV permanently tuned to the BBC and never watches any other station.

I've been hoping to reach that audience, and maybe tempt them to broaden their horizons, but it's a bit of an uphill struggle. ff.net making it impossible to post actual links except on the Author page doesn't help.

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	From: bogwitch	Date: January 4th, 2005 07:56 am (UTC)		(Link)

I don't get many there either, but LJ is the only place people seem to comment to me anyway. I frighten people with big words and actual paragraphs!

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	From: hesadevil	Date: January 4th, 2005 10:45 am (UTC)		(Link)

Yeah - the big words and paragraphs does it everytime - scary

That and taking the story places the readers don't want it to go - More Bangel!!!111

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	From: agilebrit	Date: January 4th, 2005 09:08 am (UTC)		(Link)

Oh, I feel your pain. If you don't say "SPUFFY!" in the summary, or it's not shippy, then readership is sparse. The market for gen fic there just doesn't really exist. The most reviews I've gotten for anything besides the drabble collections is for "Soulless, Evil Things," and I only got 22 for that. Most of my reviews are in the single digits.

That being said, I know I'm (probably) getting read, even if I'm not getting reviews, because my stats say that I'm on the author alert watch list of (what I think is) quite a few people. Sometimes I'm tempted to get a paid account just to see my hit count as well, and then I say "Nah." Maybe I'll do that for a month when I post my next fic... Really, I use FFN as a repository for now. I'll get a site up and running sometime. I will.

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 04:41 pm (UTC)		(Link)

The setting of 'character one' and 'character two' is limiting; there are people who only even look at stories with specific entries in those categories, which can be a nuisance when the story is a multi-ship fic or an ensemble piece in which the ships, whilst there, are not the main focus of the story.

I suppose I could have got more attention for the story in question by setting it as Spike/Buffy, but that wouldn't have been fair to Wesley or Glory!

Of course that set of people will never even see your Spike series that follows Buffy's death. Their loss, I suppose.

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	From: aphelant	Date: January 4th, 2005 09:14 am (UTC)		(Link)

Oh yes. FF is so fun for reviewing. I get them for the strangest things. Like, 10 for a drabble and 5 for a 6-chaptered fic. I don't get it.

And I've gotten a way better response in the Enterprise fandom - perhaps is the amount of crappy Buffy fics that are there that deter our fandom from haunting FF? While there are relatively few *really good* Ent fics, there are millions of really shitty Buffy fics. *shrugs*

Just give it time. I still get reviews occasionally for fics I wrote ages ago. It's hit and miss. There's no sanity there at all. ;)

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 12:31 pm (UTC)		(Link)

While there are relatively few *really good* Ent fics,

Treebeard folded his arms and frowned at the viewscreen. "Hoom, hoom. Saruman's orcs have entered the neutral zone."

"What shell we do, Keptin?" Quickbeam said from the helm.

"You are always so hasty, Quickbeam. Accelerate to Warp Factor 0.01, hoom, and arm the photon torpedoes."

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	From: megan_peta	Date: January 4th, 2005 11:02 am (UTC)		(Link)

Oh no. What's happened? Sorry haven't been in touch for a while. I was REALLY sick over christmas. How are you?

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 03:36 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I'm fine. Hope you are feeling better.

It's nothing big; I'm just feeling a bit disappointed that I've had absolutely no reaction to "And Glory Shone Around" after putting it up on ff.net. I was using it to pimp

enigmaticblues' holiday ficathon as well as my usual self-promotion, but it just seems to have slipped unnoticed beneath the waves.

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	From: desdemonaspace	Date: January 4th, 2005 12:14 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Well, we read you and comment. What are we, chopped liver? We WUV you!

What about some of the LJ fic communities?

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 03:45 pm (UTC)		(Link)

And I wuv you back!

But there's no point in only preaching to the converted.

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	From: speakr2customrs	Date: January 4th, 2005 02:07 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I read that review; what surprised me was that it was reasonably articulate, not one of the !!1! crowd at all, and yet (s)he had completely missed the point.

I would have thought it was easy to spot the difference between Anne and The Immortal, but obviously not for everybody.

Aaargh! Plot bunny! Just what I don't need!

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