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I may have done something foolish
I'm a relentless self-publicist. This may come as a surprise to you - but probably won't, as I have a LiveJournal and write reams of fanfic and put it up on the web for people to read. Anyway, I've taken a further step and opened an account at FanFiction.net. I've put "Working for the Yankee Dollar" up there as my first submission. Aiming to show myself off to a wider audience.

Only now I'm nervous. appomattoxco has a story up there currently, "Aren't You Grateful It's Not A Bunny", that is a fun piece of romantic comedy, nicely written and amusing, and it gets reviews from only one person. Am I inviting the same fate or worse? That particular person wouldn't bother to review my stories on ff.net, she's already sent me loads of feedback by e-mail, so I could get zero.

Oh well.

I had hoped to get the next chapter of "Life In Shadow" finished and up today, but it didn't happen. Maybe tomorrow, but the day after is more likely. Not Real Life issues; I just found writing this section to be a little more complex than I expected, there's a little more going on in the full version than in the draft, and it's taking longer to get the words right.

In other news, the USA has re-elected their megalomaniac warmonger, so the USA and UK still have a matched pair. I expected as much; Kerry should never have had the charisma bypass operation. We can only hope that Edwards, or Hillary Clinton, stands in 2008. Or, better still, Bruce Springsteen. The Boss for POTUS!

Current Mood: depressed depressed
Current Music: Bruce Springsteen, "Born in the USA"

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magista From: magista Date: November 3rd, 2004 08:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
I started the other way around; I had a ff.net account long before I finally got around to setting up my own fic website. In fact, what got me off my butt was when they banned the NC-17 category. I hadn't actually written anything that qualified, but I'd classified myself that way and then my stories got deleted.

I find that what helps is to post stories in chapter form. Every time you post a new chapter, your story gets moved back onto the "latest releases" page, and a lot of people seem to make choices based on that.

Also give reviews to get, just as on LJ. People tend to feel obligated if you've said something about their work. And use your "favourite authors" and "favourite stories" options, because authors are notified when they are on your lists. I found some of my favourite authors by following up the recommendations of people who had reviewed mine.

Networking. Same there as here. Good luck.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: November 3rd, 2004 08:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh, I know. The only thing is that there's a lot of stuff there that I would find it very hard to say anything positive about. "You did manage to spell 'stake' correctly a couple of times in Chapter Two" or "nice descriptive passage in the part about the original character's violet eyes and titanic breasts" would be about all I could manage. I once read a review there that said "I will give you a million dollars never ever to write anything again", and that was pretty much my feeling too.

Oh, there are some brilliant stories there. Superb. But most of them seem to be by people already on my LJ F-List and I've been enthusiastically reviewing their work, sending them birthday wishes, bumming icons off them, and so on for months anyway. I'll add them to my "Favourite authors/stories" lists as soon as I track them down - all my bookmards for ff.net stories suddenly became invalid when they did their upgrade a couple of months back - but reviews would be going over old ground.
agilebrit From: agilebrit Date: November 3rd, 2004 08:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
I get hardly any reviews at FFN, but I post there because it's a convenient repository, and, since I don't have a website (yet), I can point to my author profile there and say "There's my stuff if you feel like reading it."

I do have a few fans that have found me there and review faithfully. One strategy I use is to finish a story before posting it...and then post it chapter by chapter every few days. This keeps your name near the top of the pile. Also remember that there's a huge amount of crap there. But if you network a little and get some good authors putting you on their favorites list, that's a way to get readership.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: November 3rd, 2004 08:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've got no intention of putting all my stuff up there; I'm hoping to lure readers from there onto my site.

A lot of the best authors on ff.net seem to be on LJ as well, and quite a few are actually on my FList. I might find it hard to find worthwhile stories to review that aren't by people I already know.

And it's nearly dawn my time and I think I'm starting to write gibberish so I'd better stop.
julia_here From: julia_here Date: November 3rd, 2004 08:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
I only ever read ff.net, these days, when I'm linked there by a recommendation; otherwise it's too cumbersome to search and it seems to operate by Sturgeon's Law3; 99.9% of everything there is crap.

Julia, thinking about talking to The Programmer to host a recs site for me
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: November 4th, 2004 03:30 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I hardly read ff.net these days either, unless I'm working my way through the nominees on an awards site. Too many of the stories seem to have summaries like OMG a gril cums 2 sunydale & falls 4 Zander hes reely teh sun of Hercule & Zena LOL and I get the giggles in entirely the wrong way and wouldn't read it at gunpoint.
treacle_a From: treacle_a Date: November 3rd, 2004 11:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
When I started on ff.net I used to pimp everything I posted on the BC&S Spoiler Board, the fanfic thread on TWoP and The Big Bad Board (now defunct). I made me feel dirty, but you might want to try it, gets you out there to that wider audience. I still pimp to TWoP, just for old times sake, but the sparkle has definitely gone from there.

::is nostalgic for the days of cousin_jean and kalima as regulars::

I will swing by ff.net though and leave you an anonymous rave :)
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: November 4th, 2004 03:44 am (UTC) (Link)
I pimp my stuff on Spike's Salvation and The Bloody Awful Gutter but in the past few weeks there has been a change in the atmosphere there; many of the regulars seem to have moved over almost entirely to LiveJournal, and the newcomers replacing them seem to be a much younger crowd who are only interested in All Human fluff. That leaves me totally cold, and they seem to be left totally cold by my stuff, and that's why I'm looking for new outlets. I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing but we'll see.

Are you back from honeymoon now?
treacle_a From: treacle_a Date: November 4th, 2004 09:17 am (UTC) (Link)
I am indeed. Back to the cold reality of the shitty job I hate and the mounds of laundry that now need to be done....

bogwitch From: bogwitch Date: November 4th, 2004 12:18 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't get many reviews there, but calove got tons. I must be doing something wrong. :(

Looking at my website stats, I don't think a single visitor has come from there.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: November 4th, 2004 03:18 am (UTC) (Link)
I've been reading your reviews and I noticed one of them suggesting you change your settings to allow anonymous reviews; I went and looked at my own settings, saw that barring anonymous reviews is the default, and changed it on mine.
bogwitch From: bogwitch Date: November 4th, 2004 03:20 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I changed that awhile ago, but it didn't make a huge amount of difference.
violethamster From: violethamster Date: November 4th, 2004 02:05 am (UTC) (Link)
I get the impression that ff.net is the Bizarro World of fanfic. When I go to the bother of wading through it, it usually seems as though the number of reviews for a story is in inverse proportion to its quality.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: November 4th, 2004 03:37 am (UTC) (Link)
I've noticed the same. I was looking for some of my favourite authors to add them to my profile, and I spotted an Anne Hedonia story with 0 reviews. She's about as classy an author as you can get, so I was somewhat shocked. Whereas there was one mentioned on LJ as a classic example of badfic that I looked at and there were scores of rave reviews (and one saying "I will give you a million dollars never ever to write anything again", with which I agreed wholeheartedly).
megan_peta From: megan_peta Date: November 4th, 2004 04:54 am (UTC) (Link)
Add in John Howard and you have a freaking Trio of megalomaniac warmongerers!!! At least the better english speaking part of the earth stands united! Just so we can go mow down all those that don't speak English...and I'd vote for Bruce...send him here so we can get rid of our little butt wipe! I get some good reviews at ff.net...so don't panic...what section are you in? I only have my fave list set on the Spuffy! Obviously!
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: November 4th, 2004 05:23 am (UTC) (Link)
The largest English-speaking country on Earth is on the opposite side to the 3 warmongering nutters. Shame it is largest only in area and is inhabited almost entirely by trees.

Let's see. Bush would be Warren, obviously. B. Liar = Andrew, Howard = Jonathan?

I hadn't seen you on ff.net - I've just done a title search for "Taste of Juliet", found you as "Peta2", and added you to my fave authors list. I'm in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer".
megan_peta From: megan_peta Date: November 4th, 2004 05:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes I am slightly schizophrenic...thought at the start I would keep my real name to myself, but unfortunately too many people knew it and I started being posted in both...kind of a mess really, but Peta is my middle name! I'll check out your story when I swing by ff.net next...some good stories do end up there, but there are a lot of very young writers...but I guess we all must start somewhere. I post at VK, Sinister Attraction, Spuffy realm, B/S Central and Nocturnal. I think that's it...and now The House of Bloodshed...you should check out the gorgeous banner vampkiss did for me...it is so hot! I am hoping she'll do another fantastic one for me for the new story. And I have just finished writing a short fic in her honour, off to Beta...was meant to be short, almost got to 12000 words...I am shocked. Didn't think I had it in me...
cbtreks From: cbtreks Date: November 4th, 2004 08:53 am (UTC) (Link)
My experiences with ff.net have been pretty positive. I haven't received any reviews lately but I attribute that to the fact that I haven't posted anything there since June. Can't get reviews if you don't post! I understand the reservations about reviewing other people. I know that, especially on ff.net, if I can't say something favorable, I just don't say anything. (On the other hand, just because I don't say anything about a story doesn't mean I couldn't say anything favorable; I'm not, I'm afraid, consistent when it comes to reviewing.) I particularly like the "favorite author" and "favorite stories" feature. I don't always remember to check ff.net regularly and with those features, at least I don't miss something I'm particularly interested in.

I like your line about the charisma bypass operation, by the way. (And agree with it!)
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: November 4th, 2004 04:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm pretty much like you when it comes to reviews/feedback; I tend to not say anything if I can't say something favourable, and often not to say anything when there was something favourable I could have said. When I do try to give constructive criticism I sometimes sound as if I'm just being nasty.
debxena From: debxena Date: November 5th, 2004 03:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Interesting - I've been reading "Aren't You Grateful it's Not a Bunny" here on LJ as appomattoxco updates, and had no idea she was on Fanfic.net. It's a lovely story, though :)
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