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Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to be mocked

Happy birthday to melancthe


Belated happy birthday to higlearn

I have been vaguely thinking about doing a poll asking what people thought was the all-time best Buffyverse fanfic. Perhaps ‘The Last Tin Soldier’ by liz_marcs? shadowscast’s ‘Fragments’ series, or her ‘Sock Puppet’? rahirah’s ‘Necessary Evils’? The short story ‘I, Bot’ that used to be hosted on Valerie X’s site (but which, alas, seems to have disappeared from the Net now and so I can’t name the author)? I gave up the idea of a poll because I’m not even sure that I could make up my own mind. Feel free to make suggestions anyway (and if anyone knows where ‘I, Bot’ is these days I’d be delighted).

I was also tempted to do a poll for Worst Ever Fic but I decided that it was a Bad Idea. Too much potential for upsetting people and starting fights. Oddly enough the story that I was thinking of nominating would have been my number one contender for Best Ever right up until the last page; but the ending was so utterly dire that it turned apparent brilliance into dross worse than the most dreadful Mary-Sue tale ever inflicted upon dwellers in the Pit of Voles by an educationally-challenged fourteen-year-old. And no, I’m not going to reveal what it is.

In what little time I have for writing on work days I'm busy with another little Olaf ficlet. Just 1,000 words, and my first ever 'Discworld' crossover. 763 words done so far. None of which, alas, will make a good last line. It isn't what is behind the cut; that's some minor bitching about the comics.

Well, that’s the end of the claim that ‘the comics are canon’. They’re obviously set in an alternate universe. I had my doubts earlier but this issue proves it.

There is some argument over exactly when wolves became extinct in Scotland. The accepted story is that the last one was killed in 1743 but it is also claimed that this is a folk tale and in fact they had died out some sixty years earlier. Either way, wolves in Scotland in autumn of 2004 wouldn’t just be ignored as a normal part of the scenery. They’d be as much a cause for astonishment as would a herd of mastodons turning up in Beverley Hills.

The comic world is not our world. It’s Earth-C, otherwise known as ‘The World With Scottish Wolves’.

I wonder if they have shrimp?

As for the ‘big revelation’ – I’m paralysed with not caring. I don’t give a toss who Buffy-C, the Badly Drawn Girl, chooses to sleep with.

Oh, and Dawn is going to die soon if they don’t find a way to reverse her curse. The Scots have a word for people who sleep outdoors in a Scottish winter. It’s ‘corpse’.

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From: peasant_ Date: March 9th, 2008 12:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I would nominate eliade's Season Noir for best fic. Sadly unfinished, but it is writing at a level beyond anything else I have ever seen in the fandom, and I've seen a lot of people whose opinion I respect say the same thing.

It is an interesting comment on the breadth of our fandom that I have actually never heard of any of the fics you mention except for Necessary Evils.

I totally agree on the wolves thing. It is just so daft because I would have said the fact that there are no wolves is terribly well known. It is the sort of factoid that people know - the last wolf in Scotland was shot in the eighteenth century. And then you can have pub-quiz type disputes about the last wolf in England.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 09:59 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm surprised that you rate "Season Noir" so highly. I liked it enough that I would have read the rest if she'd ever finished it but I don't rate it as anything out of the ordinary. Certainly I don't think that it can stand comparison with Shadowscast (Spike/Xander, which is a pairing that usually I won't read, but I'd crawl over broken glass to get to a monitor to read her stories), or Liz Marcs, or julia_here's "Ballad of Ira Hayes" - now that's a story that is probably unmatched for sheer quality of writing.
selinde2 From: selinde2 Date: March 9th, 2008 12:18 pm (UTC) (Link)

Hee!

Oh, and Dawn is going to die soon if they don’t find a way to reverse her curse. The Scots have a word for people who sleep outdoors in a Scottish winter. It’s ‘corpse’.
Hah. Well put. Although in the writers' defence they may be assuming that Dawn's enormous body mass will now keep her warm enough - it's the Whale/ mammoth principle apparently. OTOH, should we assume that people who don't care about the extinction of the wolf in Scotland are calculating body mass by temperature. Hm. That would be a no, then.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 9th, 2008 12:22 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Hee!

Mammoths and whales don't just have mass; they have lots of subcutaneous fat. Dawn doesn't even have socks.
frenchani From: frenchani Date: March 9th, 2008 12:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
The comic world is not our world. It’s Earth-C, otherwise known as ‘The World With Scottish Wolves’.

I wonder if they have shrimp?

As for the ‘big revelation’ – I’m paralysed with not caring. I don’t give a toss who Buffy-C, the Badly Drawn Girl, chooses to sleep with.

Oh, and Dawn is going to die soon if they don’t find a way to reverse her curse. The Scots have a word for people who sleep outdoors in a Scottish winter. It’s ‘corpse’.


I like your take on it! :- )
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 10:04 am (UTC) (Link)
Thank you!
desdemonaspace From: desdemonaspace Date: March 9th, 2008 01:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
...the ending was so utterly dire that it turned apparent brilliance into dross worse than the most dreadful Mary-Sue tale...

Eeep. I think I know which fic this is.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 9th, 2008 01:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Don't worry, it's not yours! Far from it.
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rahirah From: rahirah Date: March 9th, 2008 01:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
Perhaps it's set in the same universe as The Wolves of Willowby Chase?
ffutures From: ffutures Date: March 9th, 2008 02:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Beat me to it - so there was an early 19th century channel tunnel (forget the exact date) which must have been very convenient for vampires. As well as letting the wolves back in.

And the climate thing is obviously down to global warming, everyone knows we're a tropical paradise these days...
bogwitch From: bogwitch Date: March 9th, 2008 02:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Is it I, Bot by Alex with the diary entries? I have a Word copy of that.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 10:11 am (UTC) (Link)
That's the one! But someone else has sent me a link to it online anyway. This time I'll save a copy myself.
petzipellepingo From: petzipellepingo Date: March 9th, 2008 02:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
Either way, wolves in Scotland in autumn of 2004 wouldn’t just be ignored as a normal part of the scenery. They’d be as much a cause for astonishment as would a herd of mastodons turning up in Beverley Hills.

The comic world is not our world. It’s Earth-C, otherwise known as ‘The World With Scottish Wolves’.

I wonder if they have shrimp?

"snort" I can just hear Joss right now saying : "Details, details!". Except, of course, you're right and he isn't.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 10:25 am (UTC) (Link)
I like to get the details right, and so do the writers that I rate highly. Would 'Came the Thunder' work if I'd made Nonoma'e'e a movie stereotype Indian? I don't think so.
melancthe From: melancthe Date: March 9th, 2008 04:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
*beam* Thank you very much for the good wishes!
makd From: makd Date: March 9th, 2008 06:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
I keep up with BtVS: The Comics thanks to generous and good-natured online fans. I refuse to buy them, because they sound WAY WAY WAY non-dimensional, even for Buffy.

The AtS comics, OTOH, I purchase and read. They seem MUCH more credible....perhaps because Joss doesn't write them, so much as "show run" them.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 10:28 am (UTC) (Link)
I get the Season 8 comics via a certain generous and good-natured online fan too. No way would I part with money for them.
mythichistorian From: mythichistorian Date: March 9th, 2008 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wolves in Scotland, huh? It's because Joss is actually writing a Primeval crossover, but hasn't got round to mentioning it yet. Nick Cutter and crew will be lurking somewhere in the vicinity, looking for the temporal anomoly that spawned the wolf pack in the first place.

It also means, of course, that we will get the 'giant Dawn v T.Rex' story, any day now ...

speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 10:41 am (UTC) (Link)
I thought of the Primeval crossover analogy too. I even thought of writing the 'Nick shows up looking for the anomaly' story but I haven't seen enough Primeval episodes to do it justice. And really my complaint isn't that there are wolves, it's that they're not recognised as being as out of place there as a Columbian mammoth on the M-25. Don't Renée and Xander know anything about the country in which they're living?

Primeval would avoid the 'T Rex' cliché and use something less stereotypical, such as Carcharodontosaurus, but Joss isn't that good. T Rex is probably the only dinosaur he's heard of. And he probably thinks that it lived in Venezuela in the 1920s.
swedish15 From: swedish15 Date: March 9th, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
May this lowly one suggest "Lilac City" by nwhepcat, simply for three reasons?

a)It beautifully written
b)It's terrifyingly dark (consider the first book, with Xander-the-recovering -alcoholic)
c)It was my first real encounter with Buffy-fiction, and as they say, one doesn't forget ones first love. And yes, I'm willing to worship the ground nhwepcat treads upon, for that fic alone. (Not that her other fics are bad.)
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 11:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, 'Lilac City' is definitely one of the good ones, and she's written a lot of other good stories, although there are a couple that I don't like.
From: hawera Date: March 9th, 2008 09:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

I Bot

You can find this at

http://alexbuffyfic.50megs.com/custom3.html

Thanks for drawing my attention to it.
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 11:20 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: I Bot

Thank you! I love that story. I've saved a hard copy this time as well as the link.
ozma914 From: ozma914 Date: March 10th, 2008 02:50 am (UTC) (Link)

Worst Fic Ever

No, you don't understand -- "it was all a dream" was part of the joke, I swear! It was planned that way all along, i didn't write myself into a corner, honest! :->
speakr2customrs From: speakr2customrs Date: March 10th, 2008 11:22 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Worst Fic Ever

But why did you write it under an assumed name? And go as far as attending a convention as that fake identity, and even causing a kerfuffle there? Isn't that carrying the creation of a sockpuppet a little too far?
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